His disciples said to him, "Who are You, that You should say these things to us?"

<Jesus said to them,> "You do not realize who I am from what I say to you, but you have become like the Jews, for they (either) love the tree and hate its fruit or love the fruit and hate the tree."

"... but you have become like the commercial managements, who say they want a great corporate intranet and then say it must run on Windows NT. You know not whereof you speak, and don't want to."